Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-4377876-20130131024419/@comment-3244796-20130220072257

114.77.194.174 wrote: Justin Holland wrote:

Justin Holland wrote:

S17MON wrote:

173.63.57.146 wrote: SPOILER!!!!!

I got some bad news guys, that picture of Penelope is inside of Bently's binoculor and he drew those on it because she does infact work for the collector because she doesn't want to work for a "petty" theif espcially since she and Bently both can make genius weapons for billions. I just said that. If Penelope didn't betray Bentley the two would've made billions anyway, which, I've said as well. It was the vanishing that caused the gang to reassemble, so if Penelope didn't betray, Bentley wouldn't have worried at all, let alone the gang reassembling or the Thievius Raccoonus being erased. Therefore, in that case, the two would've already made billions. I've also mentioned that Penelope already knows that Sly considered himself retired at the end of Sly 3 (Bentley already told everyone that he found Sly's mask and cane), meaning that it wouldn't make any sense if Teenbat's theory was right. In addition, if his theory was right then the two would've already had an argument prior to Thieves in Time. Again, the story stated that Penelope mysteriously vanished. That's why I said it was more likely a brainwash. If it wasn't a brainwash, then someone probably lied to Penelope.

Just my thoughts, though, but again, it just wouldn't make any sense if Penelope really thought Bentley was brainwashed by Sly or something because I've already seen Penelope being notified that Sly left his mask and cane in Sly 3.

Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time was pretty much a fan-made game anyway (it wasn't Sucker Punch that did the new game). Sly 3 was actually supposed to be the real conclusion of the series, now wasn't it?

Justin Holland wrote: no, i mean villians like clockwerk and neyla Meh, not villains... a miraculous return would be more like the Tennessee Kid Cooper intro when he smashes the glass case that had his gun. Guns with long barrels always look a lot nicer...

...and longshot guesses don't even make any sense. Prove that theory.

108.244.206.26 wrote: I wish Sly's father was in the game.Also is slytunkhamen going to be dlc due to the secret ending? I had to see the secret ending myself to comprehend this and yes, I do believe we haven't seen enough ancestors and I do think there should be either a dlc or a sequel because we just haven't seen enough ancestors. To keep the continuity, though, I think Sly should be all alone through the whole game. It would be interesting to see how he continues on all alone after those events, too. HOw's this then? Possibly my last guess and even i think this is a bit of a longshot, but maybe this isn't the first time she join a gang, but the first to leave on her terms.I dont know her parents but i can guess that given that she was free to impersonate a famous airplane pilot in her teens years, they weren't aruond, either killed by the first gang to take her in and established her fear of being abandon once finished with her or they threw her away when they didn't want her. there could have been others with leaders who would say the same things as Sly, but when it came down to it, they were just words used for controling her with her exceptional tech skills, until eventually she was somehow thrown away like trash (such as being turn in to the police, then escaping each time, given rise to her ablity to escape almost any prison) either when she was no longer worth keepin or for the reward on her head being in multiple gangs. with each abandoment a scar is left on her heart, then she came to see the flying as a escape from her wounds but when she won as the black baron she couldn't bring herself to take it off, her time in the costume gave her time to heal to the point where she was willing to join gangs agian, but due to past scars remaining, on her terms. WHen joinin the cooper gang, to her the gang was really different from the others, especially given that it had someone like bentley, however, while on their time off her scars were starting to somehow reopen and she had somehow got the idea the bentley was being brainwashed and held back from his potential by sly's morals and would eventually be thrown away, like herself before, considered leaving but this time found a reason to stay tied to a gang: bentley and wanting to save him from being hurt like she was. change the world through weapons could have somthing to do with with ridden theives, since she had come to believe that all theives were the same due to her upbringing and that they don't truly believe in honor. N like I said this is a strecth but all of that could be the possible foundation to her corruption, it's sort of similar to nico robin( one piece, look up on wiki) maybe if they could convince her that their not like her previous gangs, maybe she'll come around. LIke i already said a long, very, very longshot, but what do u think? cause what i learn growing up is that everything happens for a reason, maybe this dark chapter in their relationship is the foundation to a even stronger one, given that the time saga is most likely to b very dramatic like rachet and clank future, like i said a huge longshot. Well? This is my most educated guess, based on what i've seeen in the games ( being BB, her betrayal, her need to join "the best", basily every single detail in can think of) so please read through it b4 you jugde, please? guys i just want to say that if the wiki's theory  proves to be true then there is a logical way of how this occured. you know how le paradox says that he altered history to become royalty in the present. well in doing so he had actually been the one to have recruited penelope before sly did in this alternative universe and therefore she has never met Bently or Sly and has become a weapons maufactorer/ designer. then le paradox sends her back to the Middle ages to make sure sly can't interfere. How she learns about them is that she probably installed super secret spycams. and thats how she knows about them (like sly talking about about being an honerable theif (off sreen possibly)). And how she thinks bentley is stuffy is due the fact that that it may have been from the conversation recorded by le paradox previously. Thus if le paxadox's defeat means that the normal timeline is restored then that means that penelope would have not remebered doing these things in the middle ages. how she disspapeared is that le paradox altered her history with the gang and thus she never met the gang in the first place. And why this was never shown ( penelope not remebering any of this) is that (A) Bently was still too heartbroken to go find her and (B) to build up tension for the sequel.

What you said doesn't even make sense. Penelope is the reason why Le Paradox could time travel in the first place because she plagiarized Bentley's research and gave it to Le Paradox.