Board Thread:Sly Cooper film discussion/@comment-25091239-20160705011802/@comment-25091239-20160707013700

Tiger2025 wrote: Teenbat wrote: Well, using "deductive reasoning," it will be either Raleigh or Ruby. Why? Because Clockwerk has been confirmed, the official description for the movie mentions the lush mountains of China and Muggshot is an important enough character to appear in two games and a short. Does that mean Muggshot has to be in the movie? No, of course not, especially if Sony is not planning for a second or third movie, but I would say that he's "fresh" enough in Sly fans' minds for Rainmaker not to remove him.

Who is more likely to be cut, Raleigh or Ruby? I would say that they're both as likely, with Ruby being creepy enough to be memorable and Raleigh being the first boss of the series to be just as, if not more, memorable.

The problem with Raleigh is that he is one of the only bosses in the series that was not "humanized" (weird word to use). Muggshot was a bullied kid who turned to crime to get back at those bullies, Ruby was similar and the Panda King was kicked out of the firework business due to being and looking poor. We obviously know very little about Clockwerk, so I can't really say he's humanized, just really evil and awesome. I could go into the second, third and even fourth games, but I think I've made my point. Raleigh was just a snooty blue-blood that was bored of his life of luxury, so one day while sailing in his yacht he attacked a passing cruise ship and became a pirate. He's just a jerk, not someone to feel bad for. Honestly I think Mz. Ruby would be the one to be cut. Raleigh paved a bigger role in the series. He is the first criminal Sly took down, and paved the way for him becoming a master thief. Raleigh also was referenced in all four games if you count Good Bye My Sweet as part of Sly 3. His hat has almost become a symbol of Sly's success. Mz. Ruby on the other hand, doesn't even have an easter egg past Sly 2. Her world didn't fit the Sly Cooper series at all. In fact, Haiti always reminds me of the bog levels in Spyro the Dragon. Even her boss battle was an out of game. She never creeped me out she just felt out of place. Her black magic and voice were cool, but I didn't find them enough to effect the Sly Cooper series as a whole. Raleigh's backstory was horrible, but Mz. Ruby's character development was worse. Why did she want to take over Mexico? What was to gain from it? Raleigh at least had cash as a motive for his plans, and I still have his boss intro and closure memorized to this day.

Yeah I know Raleigh's quotes are so memorable and I know every word of his boss introduction and disclosure too. Also I have to say that the fiendish five member that will get replaced is probably Mz. Ruby, she is still a great villain(besides a lot of plot holes in her back ground) and I always remember her boss intro and disclosure as well. And she is the least competent member of the Fiendish Five, Clockwerk, Panda King, and probably Muggshot fought Conner, Raleigh found the book, and Panda King also killed Conner, but what did Mz. Ruby do? It is unknown what Mz. Ruby did in the only known heist that the Fiendish Five executed together(and there was nothing she could have done besides taking out Sly's mother and I don't think Mz. Ruby's voodoo remote buttons could do much on Sly's mother, and yes she could've help fight Conner but I don't think the Fiendish Five needed four of their five members to take down a raccoon with no visible muscle). Therefore I think Ruby will be replaced.